How RecycleForce & Keys2Work Help Returning Citizens Rebuild Their Lives | Epi 79

What does it really take to help someone rebuild their life after incarceration?

In this episode of The Own Your Brand Show, Victoria Odekomaya sits down with Tianna Johnson of RecycleForce and Jannett Keesling of Keys2Work to explore how employment can become a powerful pathway to purpose, stability, and long-term success.

Through an innovative employment social enterprise model, they are combining business and mission to create real opportunities for returning citizens. From immediate job placement to wraparound support like housing, transportation, and career development, their work is helping individuals not just reenter society but truly move forward.

This conversation highlights the importance of second chances, sustainable impact, and building systems that support both people and communities.

If you are passionate about workforce development, community impact, or creating meaningful change through business, this episode will leave you thinking differently.

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ABOUT

Victoria Odekomaya is a Nigerian American entrepreneur, speaker, and content marketing strategist on a mission to help business owners grow their business, brand, and legacy through the power of storytelling and strategic content marketing.

She’s the founder of LiMStudios, a full-service creative agency and state-of-the-art content studio in Indianapolis where strategy and storytelling come together through high-quality content production and marketing implementation. She’s also the creator of Boss Ladies Magazine and host of The Own Your Brand Show, a video podcast to help business owners grow their business, brand, and legacy through strategic content marketing and authentic conversations about the entrepreneurial journey. 

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Transcript

unknown 0:00

All right.

Victoria Odekomaya 0:02

On camera one, please. Oh, alright. Hi, and welcome to another episode of the Own Your Brand Show. Today I am super excited because we have two amazing, beautiful guests, and we're going to be learning about Recycle Force and Kids to work with that Kids to Work. Today we're going to be learning about Kids to Work and Recycle Force. So this is special because not only are we doing this interview, we're also doing a photo shoot that's going to end up being in the Boss Ladies magazine. So I cannot wait for you to learn about this incredible women that are making huge impact here in our local community. So without much ado, let's get into it. How are you doing, ladies? I'm doing great. Fantastic. Good, good, good. All right, so before we get in, I'm sure people are like, I want to meet who are these ladies? So would you please take turns, like just, you know, um introducing yourself?

SPEAKER_03 0:55

My name is Tiana Johnson, and I am the chief operating officer of Recycle Force, and we're employment social enterprise here in Indianapolis. And um I'm here sitting with my mother, Janet Keisling. Hi, mom.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Hi, I'm Janet Keesling, and I am one of the founders of Keys to Work, and we've been around for 30 years.

Victoria Odekomaya 1:24

I love what you do so much because your work is so integrated into the community. So you're helping to lift up the community. And I think that's one of the things that makes me so excited to talk to you today. So we have some questions because we know that people want to get to know you. But I want to start out with the question about entrepreneurship, right? It's it's a whole journey, right? So um, so what has driven each of you into entrepreneurship?

SPEAKER_03 1:49

So I grew up in a family of entrepreneurs, even starting from my grandparents' days. But I grew up in Jamaica until I was nine years old. But I feel like it's in my DNA and in my blood. And I what I like about entrepreneurship is you get to plant your own seed, you water your own flowers, all while all while changing other people's lives. And the individuals we're helping, I think we're making great impact. So that's why I I love I have to have a mission behind everything that I do.

Victoria Odekomaya 2:19

That's amazing. All right, you said something. My shirt. Did you want to pull it up? It was kind of cute that way, though, but I was just shows my too much.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Okay. It is cute how it's, you know, okay. I'll put it up some. Yeah, okay. It was almost sliding out. Okay. Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. I kind of felt it, so I kind of was like, I think the way it's to be very good. Yes, yeah. Okay.

Victoria Odekomaya 2:48

Okay. All right, so good. And then I'm gonna ask you the same question too. So are we good?

unknown 2:54

All right, good.

Victoria Odekomaya 2:55

All right, mom. So Janet, what would you say about entrepreneurship? What what brought you into it?

SPEAKER_02 3:01

You know, I became an entrepreneur at 23 years old. Oh wow, I marry a guy who had a vision and we worked well together. Right.

Victoria Odekomaya 3:32

Right, right. And I know you've been married for about 43 years. That's amazing that you get to work together from the beginning, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Absolutely. We started out together, we're still together after many years and um of working together. It's a it's a good it's a good fit.

Victoria Odekomaya 3:46

Yes, yes. Because not a lot of people can say that, right? It's like you either have a spouse that gets it or your spouse that doesn't get it. And I think your husband also, you know, so it's like really cool that you have your own partner in life also working together. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yeah, and the way we set it up is very amazing because my husband works with my mom on one side at Keys to Work, and I work with my dad. So there is some separation, but then we all get together at the end of the day and come up with these dynamic plans to make sure that we're continuing to do the good work in the community.

Victoria Odekomaya 4:18

That's amazing. That's great. All right, so so tell us a little bit about what keys to work. What what do they do? What do you actually do?

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Um keys to work is uh an employment social enterprise um slash staffing agency. Okay. We started out as a staffing agency, and focuses on how to return.

Victoria Odekomaya 4:53

That's so amazing because it's hard when people are re-entering into society and you make it easy for them.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Sustainable.

Victoria Odekomaya 5:22

Yeah, because you know, like uh we have a client, um, trusted mentors that we work with, and they do very small belief that you guys work together. Yes. Um, and we recorded a podcast here too, and for me, it was an eye-opening experience to know that the the stigma is already there, you know, for someone coming back. And a lot of them are coming back, and they it's the society is completely different, depending on how soon, how long they were in there for, and just even re you know, like coming out and like, what do I, you know, all of that, but you help them be able to have that livelihood, you know. So I would just want to say thank you for the service that you provide because whether we know it or not, you are making an in a huge impact, you know, and you're giving them an opportunity to go forward because unfortunately they can go back, right? And that that affects everybody. So thank you for the work that you do.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

We are very pleased, and um, over the years we've received a lot of recognition for our work, and um, even our clients come back to tell you thank you, and it's it's a very rewarding thing.

Victoria Odekomaya 6:23

I think I figured that too. Just hearing them and also even seeing their success after so many years, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Whatever they're doing, right? You want to hear that share that they're gonna be carding. The challenges are great for them. Many that most people would never believe and get out, but there's a lot you have to do to become successful.

Victoria Odekomaya 7:03

That's right. Thank you. Wow. So recycle force. No, I know that there's some kind of you tell us a little bit about what recycle force does, and then how you work together.

SPEAKER_03 7:14

So Recycle Force is an employment, a nationally recognized employment social enterprise in Indianapolis. And basically, it's a revenue-generating business. We recycle electronics, we have contracts with people who want to uh responsibly recycle their material. And so the cool thing is we actually trademark ABC Any Job, Better Job Career. A lot of people don't know that. And Recycle Force is the any job portion. And then our sister company, Keys to Work, they help us after we get them trained and their certifications, get into the better job and then eventually the career. And so we have a system, it's designed where as soon as they're released, we have intake every single Tuesday. So they don't have to wait. Because you have to understand when you're released, you don't have potentially an ID. So we take them to the BMV. You have no way to buy food, so we get them set up. We sign them up for um food stamps, uh, Medicaid. We have a person on the team that does that as well. So we set them up and then keys to work makes sure that they continue the success. So we're on the front end and keys to work is on the end of the journey. And then we they come back, like my mom said, and they visit and tell us how they're doing. And some are now staff members. I think that's something that I'm very proud of, and two board members that started in the program. So we're very proud of that. We can't expect other employers to hire our people on full time if we're not doing the same thing. So that's something we're proud of. I think we have over 114 individuals with lived experience that we've brought on full time.

Victoria Odekomaya 8:50

Wow. Yes, yes. Yes. So one of the things he said that struck me, and to us or anyone listening or watching, might think you help them get full stab or get ideas. Like, you know, that's that's what I don't know. I think like, was this is it 16 or 17 that we go get ideas? It seemed like a an easy task, right? But you know, when you're coming back, it's hard. And you so I I thank you.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

Yeah, yeah. We we use uh Enterprise, they're a great partner. We have vans and we transport them there. We we meet them right where they're at. What if you went to jail and you got released and you lost everything? Where would you go? Recycle, force, and keys to work.

Victoria Odekomaya 9:33

No, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. Okay, um, tell me about it. Employee, should I just say ESC? Okay, how how other uh okay, I think I would say the whole thing just so that people know what that means. How tell me about employment social enterprise, okay, and how other non-profit organizations, okay. So and this is for you, okay. So, Tiana, tell me about employment. Sorry, sorry, like you're employment, tell me about employment social enterprise and how other nonprofit organizations can be part of that.

SPEAKER_03 10:08

So, the cool thing about an employment social enterprise is when you braid revenue generating business with the social side. So, what we do is we train people and get them ready all while still running a business. So, there's a mission behind it. So, you don't want to rely all on grants because if you're relying on grants, then you're gonna get away from your core mission. You want to stick to serving the same people, stick into the mission that you've set out to always accomplish. And for us, that's helping returning citizens. And we know there's not a lot of us out there, so we keep that as our main focus. And the reason we can do that is because we have revenue generating on the recycling side and on keys to work on the staffing side. So it's a real business. And so with not relying on the grant funding alone. Now, the grant funding is amazing, it allows us to do more training, it allows us to uh it's an asset to our business. So, yes, we we absolutely enjoy um having an employment social enterprise.

Victoria Odekomaya 11:10

No, that's actually important because I think people might think that because you do such mission-driven work that it's all grant dependent on grants, right? But you're saying that this is a real business, real business, income-generating business, but you also pair that up with a grant to go further.

SPEAKER_03 11:27

Right. Exactly. Yes. So we braid the two things and we we're doing a service for people. We're recycling. We're we have a 97% recycling rate. We've recycled over a hundred million pounds of everything. Anything with a cord, we take it. Um, styrofoam, um, plastic, and uh it also some of the individuals in our program have never worked. So to be on a conveyor belt and going through different products, whether it's a curling iron or anything you can think of with a cord on it, and learning that work, you know, building that work muscle. We say work is therapy because it is their therapy. They, you know, a lot of times people go into programs, but there's they're not paid. They're paid on day one,$15 an hour, and immediately they're able to start giving back to society, paying taxes and take care of their families, which everyone needs a paycheck.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

Without a paycheck, without some type of money, you cannot survive. You cannot survive off handouts. Handouts helped hand up, but you have to have your own purpose, which is a job and a paycheck.

Victoria Odekomaya 12:37

Right, right. So um you said anything with a cord, you recycle. So you're also helping the landfill not get filled if they're exactly amazing. Yeah, see, I think uh um the Gen Z's and beyond Alpha, Gen Alpha, they're gonna thank you later. You didn't leave this earth like ruined for us. Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

Right, right.

Victoria Odekomaya 12:56

Wow, that's good. Okay. Um, what does it mean to you and your honor of your governor assigned the ear to that? That's a long question. You don't, you can wait. Did we actually talk about that one question?

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Yeah, we can, it's kind of repetitive, so you can because it's about employment social enterprise again. I think we kind of already answered it, but we can. I mean, if you want to throw it.

Victoria Odekomaya 13:18

I want to make sure Greg is happy with this. So I want to answer, I want to ask him. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm trying to figure out a way to ask it in a different way. So maybe I'll just ask about what does it mean to you that Governor Bronn has signed the ESC legislation into law, and then what does you want to take that one?

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Yeah. Okay, my mom will take that one. All right.

Victoria Odekomaya 13:38

So I'm sorry, what? Yeah, it's gonna be a good one. Yes, I tend to that one. Oh, okay. Yeah, tell us a little bit about what it means for Governor Bron, you know, signing that legislation for ESC. Wow. Now if you look at the business primarily here in Indianapolis. Okay, Indiana. But I'm thinking, well, you can you can license this model all over the country. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Sometimes I believe that, you know, when you're doing something like that you're at rather trying to grow so fast and lose all the time. Right, right.

Victoria Odekomaya 14:47

That's so wise. Thank you. Okay. Okay, we did that one. How does your organization breed grants with the income? I think we talked about that one. What roles do each oh the husband? Okay. Um can you sit forward a little bit? Okay, yeah. No, no, that's yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

I did not lie.

Victoria Odekomaya 15:11

Face, okay, yeah, yes, yes. Yeah, okay. Um okay. So I know you both work uh we go, okay. We go okay. I both I know you both work with your husbands. So what does that look like? Kenna, do you want to start?

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Right. Going forward and that's amazing.

Victoria Odekomaya 16:34

And um I think this is important to mention that not only does you know the governor of the state, you know, endorse that, but also you just got um the award at Nabo, Indianapolis, for um business of the year, right? So congratulations for that. Because people are noticing, right? That means a lot.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yes, absolutely. It was quite um pleasing. I I've never been one that works for the the the praise. I enjoy working because it's the right thing to do. Right. And so, but when you recognize, it's it's it's it's very pleasing. I was quite pleased with that award.

Victoria Odekomaya 17:06

Amazing, amazing. So, what about you walking with your husband?

SPEAKER_03 17:10

You know, I am so blessed to have the husband that I do. He's so patient and he is so passionate. He's a former sports guy, he played uh football at IU. So I think he utilizes everything he learned in sports in our work in a good way. He loves uh mentoring um the young men and women in our program, but he is the executive vice president, like I said, with my mom earlier. He works with her and um he has contracts with the city of Indianapolis. We have uh hundreds of people that have been hired on with the city and the union that started with him, that he mentored and built them up. And I think we work well together. He's very patient, he's a lot more patient than I am. I'm very, very blessed. And he's a lot like my mom, believe it or not. And I think that's what attracted to me to him, you know. Um, and so yeah, he's a beautiful human and I love working with him. I love getting up every morning and seeing him every day.

Victoria Odekomaya 18:10

That's amazing because you know it's hard, like being it's just difficult sometimes, right? Yes, and I know you say there's ups and downs, but just knowing that you have a common vision, yeah helps you push through anything.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

That's the ultimate thing, and having that respect in your marriage and the support that drives you to success, you know, and we not that we don't have disagreements, but ultimately they they we are gonna do the right thing for the good of the cause, yes, yes, that's so great. Wow, okay.

Victoria Odekomaya 18:39

Um okay, we're talking about balancing children and business now, okay? So you are doing great in your businesses, you have the support of your partners. How do you manage or balance motherhood and grandmotherhood with business? Do you want to go first?

SPEAKER_03 18:58

Yes. Well, first let me say I could not do it without my mom. Yeah. Thank you, mom. Yeah, she's very helpful. And then my mother-in-law helps. Um, but I think we have good days and bad days, my husband and I. And I think we look to see, you know, who is having that day that they need to focus on getting the kids to activities and who needs to focus on the business. We take turns, we we communicate, communication is key, and uh we make sure that we uh are thankful for our moms because without help, you cannot raise. We have a 19-year-old, 13-year-old, 10-year-old.

Victoria Odekomaya 19:36

Yeah, because you look good.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

That's my stepdaughter. She's at Ball State, and then I have a 13-year-old son and a 10-year-old daughter, and then a 10-month 10-month-old daughter. So that was really hard, but I have such a dynamic team, also. I gotta give all the praise to my executive leadership partner, Daniel Rowe, who he held it down when I was gone on maternity leave. And so I'm just we're very blessed. We work together, we're a big village, all of us. My staff is amazing. I couldn't do it without him. Yeah, that's amazing.

Victoria Odekomaya 20:13

Well, so now with seven grandchildren, how do you manage it all?

SPEAKER_02 20:18

You know what? I think it's uh it's uh a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly challenge. But I love them all.

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

And I think they love us too. And so I realize that work-life balance is important. I encourage my daughter and her husband to take time for each other and we'll hold it down and therefore here is kind of like that. This literally is a it literally is true. It's important that our grandparents take hard knowledge. They see us working on when they're you know, it's very important that they see us still grandparents or not enough. Wow, these are the all of them know who I am.

Victoria Odekomaya 21:22

That is amazing. Because to be, I I think that being um did you wanted to say something? Okay, um, being a grandparent is such a blessing. And you know, the Bible talks about being surrounded by your children's children, right? Being able to for them to learn from you in the business world too. That's just a that's incredible. Yeah, it's a blessing.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

They come around and stuff and come back and they know what's going on. They also have a heart of service. I can't see how they're a service in my head.

Victoria Odekomaya 22:10

That's amazing. Wow. Okay. All right. Let's see what's the next question. Janet, this one is for you. How have you worked to help follow in okay? How have you worked to follow to help Tiana and Glenn follow in you and Greg's footstep? Have you been aboard being supportive? Okay, sorry. I'm trying to read the question. All right, so obviously you are raising a family and you have your beautiful daughter and your son-in-law working together. Well, how have you helped to get them on board, you know, following in your footstep?

SPEAKER_02 22:46

From an early age, I think my most important thing is saying that's not something that you can do. Right. So they want to get some more succession. So we're the the these two young people are going to carry the mantle and uh the the hard work that Greg and I have put in, at least the dreams we've had, they're going to be a perfect fit to carry forward.

Victoria Odekomaya 23:54

That's amazing. Now I have to ask you, you have big shoes to fill. Yes. So what do you how does that make you feel? That you have the trust of your parents, you know.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

You know what? I feel honored. That's the word that I would use. Honored. I've they've been in this business, they've been entrepreneurs my entire life, and in this business since I was eight years old. And um, they put a lot of sacrifice, they sacrificed a lot to get where they are today. So I have to make sure that I drive this baby and do it correctly because we have to continue to help these individuals. And so I I feel honored. I know my husband would say the same thing because we're doing what we love, and it's because of them. Without them, then I would not have this journey. I'd be doing something completely different. And I just feel blessed. Wow. I feel blessed by the glory of God.

Victoria Odekomaya 24:49

Yes. How does that how does that feel hearing you know, hearing us say that?

unknown 24:54

Very prideful.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Yeah. And but I'm I'm I'm very excited that I saw that in her a long, long time ago. You know, and so I'm just seeing this concentration and I realize that she's the right person to carry the passion. Yes, she's got the right person. And and she brings people together. That's the most important thing about running a business. You can't be too cocky, you can't be too, you know, know it all. Right. She's a great balance. She's even better than I am, right? So if I said that many times, I don't know about that one, but yeah.

Victoria Odekomaya 25:35

That's so incredible. And like just hearing you say that, watching the two of you, you know, my son is 13, my oldest, right? And they sometimes come to the studio, or I make them come to the studio.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

At that age, you have to, but that's okay. Yeah.

Victoria Odekomaya 25:49

Um, but I'm seeing him get excited about wanting to edit video, wanting to, you know, so just I see myself several years from now, you know, in your own shoes. And so that's just such a blessing to see this.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

The best lesson I think that they ever taught me was to have the right people around you. You have to have the right leaders alongside with you. You don't know everything. You can't lead a business by yourself. You gotta hire people that are passionate in different departments that are gonna do the right thing with that emotional intelligence. And they've always had an amazing dynamic team around them. And I learned, and like my mom said, you can't do it alone, you can't be cocky. You have to understand that it takes a village. Yes, so good. Yeah, all righty.

Victoria Odekomaya 26:38

Um Tiana, this one is for you. What is it like for you? And going to Oh, but we already kind of answered that question. Um, how do each of you balance being an equal partner in business and equal partner? We kind of answered them. Yeah, they're very repetitive.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

Yeah, I read I was like, these are very repetitive, Dad.

Victoria Odekomaya 26:55

Okay, so maybe we can do the the other part of the question that talks about what advice do you have for other married entrepreneurs working together? Um, okay, so let me just take it in that angle. Okay. So we've talked about how you both, you know, work great together with your husbands, you know, but I'm sure there's someone out there listening thinking, oh God, you know, because being married is work in its own right. So what type of advice can you offer to entrepreneurs that are working together or thinking about working together to make it successful?

SPEAKER_03 27:26

So for me, I say take time to enjoy one another. Enjoy your success together, travel, compromise. There's no perfection in any marriage. You have to understand you're not gonna always agree. But if you at least compromise and listen to one another, then you can definitely build an empire. I have other friends that are entrepreneurs and we we get on weekly calls. So we surround ourselves with other people that do the same thing because we may learn from them and likewise they may learn from us. So who you have around you, the energy, I'm a big believer in energy, no negative energy, because that will drag you down. So you have to have positive people around you and people that you can learn from, people that you can chase to be better. That's good. Yes.

Victoria Odekomaya 28:19

So, Jana, what would you what would you add to that?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Well, I Diana did such an amazing job, but I think she used the word compromise. Not being too prideful that you can't accept that your decision wasn't the right way to make it. Right. And I think that's very, very important. Compromising, listening, and learning to accept when you didn't make the right decision. Yeah, yeah. You'll then you'll win. Right.

Victoria Odekomaya 29:00

I love that. I love that. Patience, listening, compromising. Yeah, that's good. Okay, last question.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

Ladies marry a man with a lot of patience. That's what I did.

Victoria Odekomaya 29:11

All right, so this is the last question. This is for you. Um, how has your Janet, both of you, Janet? How has your life in Jamaica together? Your entrepreneurial career and then Tienna, how has your mother kept you connected? Oh, I like this one. Okay, so Janet, you are originally from Jamaica. So, how has your life being a Jamaican like impacted you in your business?

SPEAKER_02 29:34

I would say it's a resilience of the island. We do not take law for an answer. Yeah, we learn to take a little bit of a Jamaica would say I am a strong proud of my island heritage because you know, you learn to use a little of anything and make it into something like that.

Victoria Odekomaya 30:19

Yes. I I can relate a little bit with that because also coming from Nigeria, we don't have the luxury of life, right? And so you just learn to persevere, be resilient. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

If this didn't work, then try this.

Victoria Odekomaya 30:34

This world is closed, try not to do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

Yes, you know, and that's what I've done. I've driven too. Many people would have said you would not have survived this last 30 years, and I said, Health, I'm gonna survive. That's right. And I did.

Victoria Odekomaya 30:46

That's good. That can do spirits, yeah. Very important. That's so good. So, Tiana, how has mom, you know, kept you connected to your Jamaican heritage?

SPEAKER_03 30:55

I was raised very Jamaican. Okay. Okay. So I grew up in Jamaica until I was nine years old. Oh, really? When we moved, we moved to uh Indianapolis at a very young age. But one thing my mom and dad made sure is I went back every single year, every summer. Um, I have the same, one of the same best friends from preschool from Jamaica. They made sure that I stayed connected with her, which was very important because it was a big culture shift for me, you know, and so um I cook Jamaican food and the resilience in a Jamaican, like my mom was saying, we don't give up, we push through. And we have a little saying, we lickle but we talawa. And um, you know, it's like we're we're small, but we're big, we're real big and we push through. And um, I'm a big track fan. Yeah, and I know that that's what we're known for. Unfortunately, I wasn't that I would always come last when I was in Jamaica. But anyway, yeah, no, um, she uh my culture has been a very important part of my life, and my mom made sure that I never lost sight of that, and that's what makes me resilient today.

Victoria Odekomaya 32:09

Yes, yes. So now your husband, have you introduced? I'm sure you've introduced him some of the food.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

Oh Lord, he loves Curry Go. He loves Oxtail, he loves all of that stuff, he loves Jamaica, he wants to go. We go back every year. My children come with us. We're going in October, meaning my parents, my brother, his wife, the whole family's going in October with my children. So we're excited.

Victoria Odekomaya 32:32

You're also bringing the grandchildren here.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Yes, yes, yes.

Victoria Odekomaya 32:36

So you spoke a little bit so you you understand the language. Oh, yeah, mechanic batwa. I love this. I love this. Oh, this is so great. Um, it's been such a wonderful time spending with you today. Likewise. I really appreciate this. And before we wrap up, is there anything else you'd like to add? You know, maybe share with anyone, you know, people that are listening, or just you know, add.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

If you can do something for the people, if you can make a change, changing lives, it inspires you. It makes your children's children be inspired. We continue that legacy. You'll feel good, you'll wake up happy, not every morning, but almost every morning. You know what I mean? I think uh as people get successful, remember the people that need that help, that hand up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

That was beautiful, Tiana. That's what I wanted her to learn that she was always getting. It doesn't matter. Do your best to put forward and you know, do the work and you can be successful, you know, follow your passion.

Victoria Odekomaya 34:03

That's so good. Well, thank you again so much for coming. I've had such a blast. You know, we did a photo shoot before we did this, and it's just been incredible. Um, they are both gonna be featured in the Boss Ladies magazine coming up in March. So make sure you check out their story and the photos and everything that we're doing. Um, but I know there's uh we're also gonna put the links to Kids to Walk and Recycle Force in the description so you can connect with them. I'm sure you, you know, even if it's volunteering or getting to know more about it, right? Recycling, you know, and just connecting more so that we can do more for the community. So make sure you check out the links below and just stay connected. Thank you again for coming.

unknown 34:41

Victoria, thank you so much. You're awesome.

Victoria Odekomaya 34:43

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

It's such a pleasure, you know. I was a little nervous, but you are wonderful. I've been good to you. Thank you so much.

Victoria Odekomaya 34:49

Thank you too. Thank you. Okay, that was good. Oh my Lord, we did it, you know, yeah, and it was.